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		<title>By: Clay Shentrup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay Shentrup</dc:creator>
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This response is a bit out of place, because I can&#039;t find a way to post a comment to your recent post about OpenSTV.

Let me just say that it is outrageous that the OpenSTV people call STV &quot;simple&quot;, even in the single-winner form called Instant Runoff Voting.  From an algorithmic standpoint, it is much more complicated than a few much better voting methods.  And in fact it is objectively among the worst methods.

A far superior option you could have used is simply Range Voting - Olympic style scoring, like you see on product review sites (e.g. 1-5 stars).  The world&#039;s most extensive Bayesian regret calculations, by Princeton math Ph.D. Warren D. Smith, show that this superiority is even greater when the electorate is strategic.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://RangeVoting.org/UniqBest.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://RangeVoting.org/UniqBest.html&lt;/a&gt;

Range Voting is also just massively simpler than IRV, Condorcet, and others.  William Poundstone makes the case that we should use Range Voting in political elections, in his forthcoming book Gaming the Vote (out in February).

Regards,
Clay Shentrup
San Francisco, CA
clay@electopia.org
415.240.1973
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<p>===<br />
This response is a bit out of place, because I can&#8217;t find a way to post a comment to your recent post about OpenSTV.</p>
<p>Let me just say that it is outrageous that the OpenSTV people call STV &#8220;simple&#8221;, even in the single-winner form called Instant Runoff Voting.  From an algorithmic standpoint, it is much more complicated than a few much better voting methods.  And in fact it is objectively among the worst methods.</p>
<p>A far superior option you could have used is simply Range Voting &#8211; Olympic style scoring, like you see on product review sites (e.g. 1-5 stars).  The world&#8217;s most extensive Bayesian regret calculations, by Princeton math Ph.D. Warren D. Smith, show that this superiority is even greater when the electorate is strategic.<br />
<a href="http://RangeVoting.org/UniqBest.html" rel="nofollow">http://RangeVoting.org/UniqBest.html</a></p>
<p>Range Voting is also just massively simpler than IRV, Condorcet, and others.  William Poundstone makes the case that we should use Range Voting in political elections, in his forthcoming book Gaming the Vote (out in February).</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Clay Shentrup<br />
San Francisco, CA<br />
<a href="mailto:clay@electopia.org">clay@electopia.org</a><br />
415.240.1973</p>
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